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Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.11 02:54:00 -
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 Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Ogogov
oh, right, because drones aren't worthless enough already with their slow damage delivery, awful AI and vulnerability to enemy fire. 
Go doing something like this and you'd better be supporting a hybrid buff.
It will only nerf AFK domis, which is a good thing. people micro managing their drones can happily fight sleeper.
By Micromanaging you mean recalling them every other minute?
As a loving drone user
/not supported
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Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.11 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever
Originally by: Jerid Verges
By Micromanaging you mean recalling them every other minute?
As a loving drone user
/not supported
yes micro managing means recalling drones when they got aggro. it also means picking group aggro wisely. it also means you got your turrets active on the domi all the time to keep the aggro on you. *gasps* domi user finally have to do something in missions. (no salvaing and looting dont count.)
Wrong. As it currently stands a Sleeper AI will ALWAYS aggro the drones because the drones have a paper thin tank but great DPS.
Blasters and Rails have sucky DPS and ships are tanked very good. Not to mention missioners can't afford to sacrifice PW/CPU for properly fitted tank AND guns.
So, all this proposal would do is make it so drones would be unusable in missions.
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Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.11 21:32:00 -
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Lol did you just post a Dual Rail fit? Wow. Dual Rails are useless, their range sucks and their tracking sucks and their scan resolution sucks if you want to shoot anything smaller then a cruiser. I also doubt you can fit any speed mods, so you can't control the range you need to be at to make those rails work effectively. Why would you even fit 2 Drone Links when that would put your drone range WAAAY beyond what those guns can hit at? (Because you're out of PW? Probably)
Not to mention, that tank is so permaed that, it once again proves my point, Sleeper AIs will always retarget drones and basically force ANY droneboat to keep their drones in the hold permenantly.
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Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.20 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Lifera
unless mining is nerfed, such as less tank for exhumers (but mining nerfs would never happen, depsite tons of exhumers still infesting high sec belts), i'm not even gonna consider supporting this.
Nerf mining? Are you kidding? What are you some kind of mission carebear? What? You want to make it so Exhumers are TOTALLY defenseless? We can't even survive a properly fitted suicide gank, and even a tank that can take on low/null belt rats is hard to fit.
Not to mention, mining is pretty much the only profession that seems to have gotten less and less viable the longer Eve stays around. So if anything, it's already been nerfed (By the free market) meanwhile missions are untouchable since most of the reward comes from salvage, tags, and direct isk.
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a more active profession that actually requires a lot more attention.
Mission macroing is just as big of a problem as mining macroing.
ALSO: Thread doubly not supported still because it is a stealth Gallente nerf.
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Jerid Verges
Gallente
The Society of Innovation
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2010.04.21 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Anna Lifera
1. u supposedly can't survive yet what r all the other thousands of exhumers STILL littering the belts have to say? that's what i thought. 
Lol wut? Ever heard of Hulkaggedon? Whenever there is a coordinated effort to go out and kill Exhumers it is always successful and easy. Why? Exhumers are easy targets.
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2. it's less and less because everyone is oversupplying ore and ice to death with those thousands of exhumers still intact to mine some more. and it's still afk and therefore, effortless--that's why it appeals to ppl this way and that's why mining shouldn't be as rewarding--it's really not a hard concept...
Are you kidding? Half of the problem is over supply from MISSION RUNNERS. Mission runners and drone regions provide more then HALF of the mineral supply in the market! Less so for the low ends, almost 70-80% for the high ends. Why do you think nobody mines in lowsec? Because all the mins you find in lowsec ores are provided by Missioners!
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3. that's hilarious 'cause out of all the threads i see complaining about macro mining, this is the very first one i've ever seen about macro missioning. maybe it's because, once again, mining is effortless and therefore, infinitely easier to macro? u don't have to take my word for it--check the mineral prices. 
Do you live under a rock or something? Macro missioning is incredibly prevailant. Programs are out there that run missions for people. There are plenty of threads about Macro missioning. And that same afk missioning floods the market with reprocessed loot and ruins the profession of mining.
And, lol Missions take EFFORT? LOLOLOL If anything, lvl4s require LESS effort then Mining! All you need to do is get a permatanked Raven or Dominix, get aggro, go afk, and let automated machines like drones or FOFs to do the work for you.
At least in mining you have to check every 4 minutes to move the ore to the can.
You're an idiot.
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